1 | Aug 19, 2009 6:19 PM | i hear that fellowship students can also get partially supported by GSI/GSR. |
2 | Aug 20, 2009 5:19 AM | I wouldn't call it unfair, but there is clearly an inequality -- students on fellowship make more money and don't have to teach as often. And the department typically gives a little bit of extra money to students on fellowship as a kind of award or bonus.
(And for students picking advisers based on available funding, fellowships obviously give them more freedom to choose what they work on.) |
3 | Aug 20, 2009 5:19 AM | Sometimes students on a fellowship get more money, but that's about it. (I was on a fellowship for my first three years.) Also, some fellowships can be a pain logistically (lots of paperwork) but sometimes none of that pain pays off financially (salary is the same or maybe even less, but the trouble is much more). |
4 | Aug 20, 2009 5:19 AM | Slightly different, but recently found out that being on fellowship means I get paid less in the summer than other students and that there is a great deal of unevenness between fellowship supplements for different students (e.g., NSF supplements for those in radlab/parlab versus those outside). |
5 | Aug 20, 2009 5:20 AM | fellowship recepients often get paid more |
6 | Aug 20, 2009 5:25 AM | They often have more money to play around with, and don't have to worry about finding funding. |
7 | Aug 20, 2009 5:35 AM | US Citizens on Felolwships tend to get paid higher sometimes |
8 | Aug 20, 2009 5:39 AM | GSI's seem to get paid less and have more responsibilities. |
9 | Aug 20, 2009 5:47 AM | Students on fellowship have more autonomy in their research topic. |
10 | Aug 20, 2009 6:01 AM | GSRs is not very high, GSI even less. Fellowship is usually at least 25% higher. |
11 | Aug 20, 2009 6:14 AM | Fellowship students get paid double, even though they are lzy students in many cases. Also, fellowship students get to pick which classes they want to GSI. Students without fellowship are forced to GSI whichever classes are open. |
12 | Aug 20, 2009 6:36 AM | It bothers me slightly that some people are getting full funding from department as well as fellowship.. especially given the fact that UC budget is quite low these days |
13 | Aug 20, 2009 6:40 AM | fellowship students are "free" to advisors and favored; perhaps given more freedom. |
14 | Aug 20, 2009 12:58 PM | Clearly fellowships pay more, so strictly speaking there is inequality. However, the inequality doesn't bother me. In real life some people are paid more than others, too. I don't see a need for income redistribution amongst grad students. |
15 | Aug 20, 2009 1:16 PM | Fellowship students get significantly more money and the lack of money affects my life. |
16 | Aug 20, 2009 3:09 PM | For the first year some fellowships got a lot of extra money, some didn't. |
17 | Aug 20, 2009 3:10 PM | More international students are GSI/GSRs, and they sometimes have less of their total expenses covered. |
18 | Aug 20, 2009 4:26 PM | Difference in salary make me feel a bit inferior doing GSI than those who has GSR |
19 | Aug 20, 2009 5:38 PM | Students with a fellowship get significantly more money than those who do not have one because of the 25% supplement. |
20 | Aug 20, 2009 9:15 PM | Sometimes funding differences, which also result in requisite differences. All of which are logical. |
21 | Aug 20, 2009 11:47 PM | fewer chance to get an advisor |
22 | Aug 21, 2009 4:43 AM | people with fellowship can spend more time on coursework and research (since they are not TAing any class). |
23 | Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PM | Students who are required to GSI nearly ever semester have much less time for research and other activities, and this can cause resentment to build between them and other students. |
24 | Aug 22, 2009 3:56 AM | Yes, there is a distinction but perhaps it is a justifiable market pressure. |
25 | Aug 25, 2009 9:34 PM | Students without external funding are only given the GSI/GSR stipend which is definitely inadequate. |
26 | Aug 25, 2009 9:34 PM | They have almost no responsibility compared to a GSR yet they receive even more funding. |
27 | Aug 25, 2009 9:38 PM | I have no way of knowing |
28 | Aug 25, 2009 9:41 PM | GSI si very time consuming, and those who have to do it for funding (not for the satisfaction of the teaching requirement), are left with little time to find an advisor/progress on research |
29 | Aug 25, 2009 9:43 PM | Karl got a free laptop. |
30 | Aug 25, 2009 10:25 PM | Fellowship students have more latitude in research topics |
31 | Aug 25, 2009 10:34 PM | Fellowship students feel less like an imposition, so have an easier time trying to obtain an adviser.
In general, fellowship students seem more relaxed and happy.
GSIing is obviously a substantial time burden. |
32 | Aug 25, 2009 11:03 PM | I see the inequality between students on fellowship/GSR vs. GSI. GSIs make less money but have greater responsibilities. |
33 | Aug 25, 2009 11:12 PM | More funds available for those on fellowship. |
34 | Aug 26, 2009 12:02 AM | Fellowships give students more freedom to approach and work with potential advisors, who are willing to take a chance on them. Other than that no real inequality. |
35 | Aug 26, 2009 2:39 AM | It's certainly the case that students on fellowship have an easier road to graduation, especially in their first two years. I'm not sure I would say that this is a bad thing, but it's the case. The biggest issue is obviously that it's much easier for these students to find an advisor. |
36 | Aug 26, 2009 5:00 AM | Ones on fellowship get paid more. |
37 | Aug 26, 2009 5:09 AM | I think there is a slight inequality in that I picked up a $9350 check the morning of orientation (which I was not expecting but needed some relatively small portion of to make ends meet) while other students have not been paid at all yet. The trouble is that most have a thin budget, which has already been stressed by moving cross country or internationally and has had to sustain them for a period here outside of their previous domicile (likely their parents residence) during a time when they were not earning money and setting up a home. |
38 | Aug 26, 2009 5:24 AM | They have less work load. |
39 | Aug 26, 2009 6:12 AM | Fellowships provide a better stipend on average. |
40 | Aug 26, 2009 9:37 PM | More money for fellowship than GSI |
41 | Aug 27, 2009 5:23 AM | Stipends arent on time! |