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Do you perceive any inequality between students who are on fellowship and those supported by GSI/GSR?
#Response DateIf yes, please elaborate
1Aug 19, 2009 6:19 PMi hear that fellowship students can also get partially supported by GSI/GSR.
2Aug 20, 2009 5:19 AMI wouldn't call it unfair, but there is clearly an inequality -- students on fellowship make more money and don't have to teach as often. And the department typically gives a little bit of extra money to students on fellowship as a kind of award or bonus. (And for students picking advisers based on available funding, fellowships obviously give them more freedom to choose what they work on.)
3Aug 20, 2009 5:19 AMSometimes students on a fellowship get more money, but that's about it. (I was on a fellowship for my first three years.) Also, some fellowships can be a pain logistically (lots of paperwork) but sometimes none of that pain pays off financially (salary is the same or maybe even less, but the trouble is much more).
4Aug 20, 2009 5:19 AMSlightly different, but recently found out that being on fellowship means I get paid less in the summer than other students and that there is a great deal of unevenness between fellowship supplements for different students (e.g., NSF supplements for those in radlab/parlab versus those outside).
5Aug 20, 2009 5:20 AMfellowship recepients often get paid more
6Aug 20, 2009 5:25 AMThey often have more money to play around with, and don't have to worry about finding funding.
7Aug 20, 2009 5:35 AMUS Citizens on Felolwships tend to get paid higher sometimes
8Aug 20, 2009 5:39 AMGSI's seem to get paid less and have more responsibilities.
9Aug 20, 2009 5:47 AMStudents on fellowship have more autonomy in their research topic.
10Aug 20, 2009 6:01 AMGSRs is not very high, GSI even less. Fellowship is usually at least 25% higher.
11Aug 20, 2009 6:14 AMFellowship students get paid double, even though they are lzy students in many cases. Also, fellowship students get to pick which classes they want to GSI. Students without fellowship are forced to GSI whichever classes are open.
12Aug 20, 2009 6:36 AMIt bothers me slightly that some people are getting full funding from department as well as fellowship.. especially given the fact that UC budget is quite low these days
13Aug 20, 2009 6:40 AMfellowship students are "free" to advisors and favored; perhaps given more freedom.
14Aug 20, 2009 12:58 PMClearly fellowships pay more, so strictly speaking there is inequality. However, the inequality doesn't bother me. In real life some people are paid more than others, too. I don't see a need for income redistribution amongst grad students.
15Aug 20, 2009 1:16 PMFellowship students get significantly more money and the lack of money affects my life.
16Aug 20, 2009 3:09 PMFor the first year some fellowships got a lot of extra money, some didn't.
17Aug 20, 2009 3:10 PMMore international students are GSI/GSRs, and they sometimes have less of their total expenses covered.
18Aug 20, 2009 4:26 PMDifference in salary make me feel a bit inferior doing GSI than those who has GSR
19Aug 20, 2009 5:38 PMStudents with a fellowship get significantly more money than those who do not have one because of the 25% supplement.
20Aug 20, 2009 9:15 PMSometimes funding differences, which also result in requisite differences. All of which are logical.
21Aug 20, 2009 11:47 PMfewer chance to get an advisor
22Aug 21, 2009 4:43 AMpeople with fellowship can spend more time on coursework and research (since they are not TAing any class).
23Aug 21, 2009 10:10 PMStudents who are required to GSI nearly ever semester have much less time for research and other activities, and this can cause resentment to build between them and other students.
24Aug 22, 2009 3:56 AMYes, there is a distinction but perhaps it is a justifiable market pressure.
25Aug 25, 2009 9:34 PMStudents without external funding are only given the GSI/GSR stipend which is definitely inadequate.
26Aug 25, 2009 9:34 PMThey have almost no responsibility compared to a GSR yet they receive even more funding.
27Aug 25, 2009 9:38 PMI have no way of knowing
28Aug 25, 2009 9:41 PMGSI si very time consuming, and those who have to do it for funding (not for the satisfaction of the teaching requirement), are left with little time to find an advisor/progress on research
29Aug 25, 2009 9:43 PMKarl got a free laptop.
30Aug 25, 2009 10:25 PMFellowship students have more latitude in research topics
31Aug 25, 2009 10:34 PMFellowship students feel less like an imposition, so have an easier time trying to obtain an adviser. In general, fellowship students seem more relaxed and happy. GSIing is obviously a substantial time burden.
32Aug 25, 2009 11:03 PMI see the inequality between students on fellowship/GSR vs. GSI. GSIs make less money but have greater responsibilities.
33Aug 25, 2009 11:12 PMMore funds available for those on fellowship.
34Aug 26, 2009 12:02 AMFellowships give students more freedom to approach and work with potential advisors, who are willing to take a chance on them. Other than that no real inequality.
35Aug 26, 2009 2:39 AMIt's certainly the case that students on fellowship have an easier road to graduation, especially in their first two years. I'm not sure I would say that this is a bad thing, but it's the case. The biggest issue is obviously that it's much easier for these students to find an advisor.
36Aug 26, 2009 5:00 AMOnes on fellowship get paid more.
37Aug 26, 2009 5:09 AMI think there is a slight inequality in that I picked up a $9350 check the morning of orientation (which I was not expecting but needed some relatively small portion of to make ends meet) while other students have not been paid at all yet. The trouble is that most have a thin budget, which has already been stressed by moving cross country or internationally and has had to sustain them for a period here outside of their previous domicile (likely their parents residence) during a time when they were not earning money and setting up a home.
38Aug 26, 2009 5:24 AMThey have less work load.
39Aug 26, 2009 6:12 AMFellowships provide a better stipend on average.
40Aug 26, 2009 9:37 PMMore money for fellowship than GSI
41Aug 27, 2009 5:23 AMStipends arent on time!